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#316723

I agree with VisiGod’s response. Also, if you like those kinds of templates, have you looked at RocketTheme’s magazine template, released last year? I think it was released in July 2008. They even have six colors (skins) that your visitors may choose from.

If you like Teline III, and want more “colors”, try to customize it on your own. Or, be willing to pay a webdesigner to put the makeover for you.

As is, apart from the bugs and need to convert the static modules to dynamic modules, my main concern with the Teline III is speed. I hope they will optimize the script further. And, I am trying to find ways to optimize it too.

Cornelio

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#316728

dont know whats wrong with this page guys

http://templates.joomlart.com/ja_teline_iii/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&layout=blog&id=6&Itemid=391

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#316731

HI all
I believe Teline templates have a special character and are very elegant for news related sites. It is not suitable for sites like TV etc. but more for newspaper, magazine, art and literature related sites. It is more close to the guardian newspaper designs and similar ones. Personally I would like to see a bit more styling similar to http://www.lemonde.fr, guardian.co.uk, elpais.com and similar ones (but we can do that ourselves i believe with some css changes etc), more news related modules adjusted to the designs (like introduction of related news, comments etc inside the story page) and more emphasis to the comments, forum and social side of a news site.

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#316789

Hello,

first of all I think Teline III is a great template, and with the stable release I’m sure we’ll appreciate it even more.

To my question:

I’m interested in changing the overall language in the template from English to Swedish.

The dates, the “last update” and the “Headlines:” on the top of the template is some, and furthermore I want to change “More” to the Swedish equivalent.

I don’t think there is any language file for the whole template,

so can you please point me in the right direction?

Mod Edit :
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Language files are being added. Wait for the stable release please. Moving this post to the huge thread. and Don’t worry, i shall point you in right direction incase there would be difficulty in changing text to your language.

Arvind

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#316790

Hi cgc….
<blockquote>The only way that Joomlart could make “contemporary versions” of the Teline series is to have a separate line of templates, just like what Joomlart did with Magento, based on the foundation of Teline II and Teline III, and more related features associated with “News-magazine” software. I already advocated and outlined something like this in another thread:</blockquote>
I think we have to be clear what JA is – it’s a Template maker – JA News etc are useful ad-ons but not a full-powered Magazine/Newspaper, go to commercial components for that, we did.
We’ve been happilly using iJoomla News for quite a long time, running on Teline 1 (yes 1) on Joomla 1.0.5 – at that time we decided that JA News just didn’t do the job we wanted – YET Teline was the template we needed.
Now it’s time to migrate to Joomla 1.5 (ok a bit late, but we’re busy running a daily news site, so no time to mess with tinkering about!).
Take a look at the combination http://www.packwebasia.com/

Just posting to show that even on Joomla 1.0.x and Teline 1 you can achieve quite a lot overlaying a News/Magazine component.

We’ll be testing Teline III once it is out of beta and decide whether to take the same route, or go with the new JA News modules (& others)

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#316815

SHoggard,

You have to understand the context of a response to another post, and perhaps the history of responses from a user. The one you quoted was in response to members who like the features of Teline III as is — members who may not need (no may not even know nor care what a “true magazine” is) — but want more colors or what they call “contemporary look” for the Teline III. As pointed out by Scotty, in a previous response here”, the style of the Teline series is perfect for its target audience.

Kindly read my post all the way back on 3 August 2007 and quite a number of posts since then before you “enlighten me” about the nuanced differences between the existing JA News and a magazine component.:)

I am quite familiar with a variety of commercial newspapers, magazines and journals formats and features — those features are what I want. Thus, even before I joined Joomlart in August 2007, I know what a “true magazine” is. I bought the “iJoomla Magazine” software way back in Summer 2007. As a magazine component, at the time, “iJoomla Magazine” was inadequate and very cumbersome to use. For starters, I told Merav (the founder of iJoomla) that she should at least combine their “iJoomla Magazine” and “iJoomla News” to have the rudiments that approach what commercial newspapers, magazines and journals use.

However, while I have the license, I opted not to use iJoomla’s softwares eventually because Merav promised me that (in two weeks) she would combine both the features of “iJoomla Magazine” and “iJoomla News”. I even offered to pay for the cost of both if she did that. More important, when Joomla 1.5 eventually was released in mid January 2008, iJoomla (Merav) had a very laid back response to it — that she would only start revising “iJoomla Magazine” for Joomla 1.5 when it is “stable”. If I am not mistaken, iJoomla first released the beta format of “iJoomla Magazine” for Joomla 1.5 only in June 2008, not only a very slow but a very inadequate update at that. Merav did not even “integrate” the “iJoomla Magazine” and “iJoomla News”, as promised.

I soured on that iJoomla attitude because Joomla has updated its CMS quite often — many times because of security flaws. Why is this very important? Imagine not being able to update your Joomla site, because the third party creator(s) of one or more of the key components was(were) slow to update in response to changes or security updates of the Joomla CMS. Your Joomla website could be vulnerable to attack.

Security considerations, or lack thereof (as outlined above), is one of the reasons why I have since been more careful in integrating “third party” Joomla extensions — forum, comments, calendar, chat, slideshow, etc. — to my website. My preference now is to have some of these features in separate databases or websites, and integrate them via multisite features, including the use of common login for registered users.

For the record, Teline II, released in mid April 2008, has the rudiments of a Magazine with its “Magazine menu”. I am sure you must know this, if you have used Teline II. Many who just did cursory inspection of or never used Teline II, or may not fully grasp what “commercial” online newspapers, magazines and journals can do, may not appreciate this “magazine menu” feature of Teline II.

Teline II is unique from other Joomlart templates — even the original Teline template — because of the “magazine” menu component, notwidthstanding its rudimentary magazine features. As far as I know, Teline II (before Teline III) is one of only two Joomla templates with the rudiments of a “magazine component”. The other one is RocketTheme’s magazine template, released in July 2008. I inspected both. I happen to like the clean style of Teline II better, for my information rich websites.

However, while Teline II included a “magazine menu”, it does not even approach the capabilities and features of “commercial” online newspapers, magazines and journals. This was why I have been advocating for more features in the updates of Teline II even when it was still new.

Yes, Teline III has incorporated many good features that I like and addressed a number of concerns I have with Teline II. But, it still did not address many features that I consider essential for an “information rich” website (see my recent threads here in Teline III and Feedback forum prior to release of Teline III beta).

As outlined above, I do not think the “iJoomla Magazine” component is the way to go. If you want a component that will approximate the features of commercial newspapers, magazines and journals, you should consider the “Jxtended Magazine” extension. I should emphasize also that “Jxtended Magazine” extension apart from being more advanced and superior now than the “iJoomla Magazine” component, it has the greater advantage of allowing “unlimited licensing”. I already have a number of posts here on “Jxtended magazine” and how it would be ideal to integrate it with either Teline II or Teline III, so I would not repeat them here.

If you or others here are interested for such integration of Teline II or Teline III with the “full features of a true news-magazine”, please write to me. I am in the process of negotiating with someone to attempt to do just this. What I have in mind though goes beyond integration of the “magazine features”. There are a number of areas where Joomla CMS are inadequate and those needed to be addressed to.

Maybe we can sweeten the deal, in terms of compensation for the job. The more users who want such features, the shared cost per individual will be less.

My preference though is that Joomlart eventually will undertake such integration more seriously. Members who appreciate the need for a more robust and full-featured “news-magazine” product (it is not just a template anymore) may be willing to pay a premium price, just like Joomlart has a separate line of the Magento templates.

Having suggested this, I may still retain the option of using the independent approach — customized integration of “Jxtended magazine” with products like Teline III — if Joomlart will not review and reconsider its licensing policies. Joomlart licensing seems to become more strict with its new set of products (http://www.joomlart.com/forums/showthread.php?p=143696).

Cornelio

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#316816

Cornelio, try keeping it short man 🙂

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#316844

a quick question Cornelio since you are an expert in Ja Teline… is it possible to create another magazine menu other than default one? is it like creating any other menu?

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#316847

<em>@cgc0202 143875 wrote:</em><blockquote>
…
Having suggested this, I may still retain the option of using the independent approach — customized integration of “Jxtended magazine” with products like Teline III — if Joomlart will not review and reconsider its licensing policies. Joomlart licensing seems to become more strict with its new set of products (http://www.joomlart.com/forums/showthread.php?p=143696).

Cornelio</blockquote>

I don’t agree on most of the points with Cornelio…despite of it’s long post :-[

iJoomla components (I’ve bought most of them) were always have been limited and full of bugs…great marketing and design though.

Jxtended magazine using the same (false) idea that another “Joomla inside of Joomla” needed to get the best results…the same logic behind K2 and Yootheme Zoo and other so called CCK’s.

False because ideally a good component should use – and extend – the core content/categories/sections etc. so you can upgrade anytime, and use the myriads of extra modules components plugins and templates (like Ja Teline III 😉 ) without any problem…stay very flexible instead of be locked to one proprietary component and it’s special content types.

Unfortunately there are not many great examples…but out of my head one who did this right: Jreviews (reviewsforjoomla). There’s nothing in the new CCK’s and Magazine components that couldn’t be replicated better with Jreviews and it’s dealing with the core content elements…so great for Teline III or anything else.

I just wanted to state my opinion… Teline III is on a very good way (it’s new modules and plugins are exceptionally good/flexible for an online portal…just need a little bug hunting)…please don’t mix it with other proprietary extensions…there are already all the tools out there…One can make the most complex magazine with Joomla core content types and a little research…

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#316851

santoshalom,

<em>@santoshalom 143918 wrote:</em><blockquote>a quick question Cornelio since you are an expert in Ja Teline…</blockquote>

I am not an expert at all. What I am clear about is what I want and where I want to go. In fact, I have no programming or scripting background and experience. That is why I am trying to hire someone to help me implement what I want done. And more than likely, I will be one of the members who will be asking a lot of basic questions, once the stable Teline III comes out.

<em>@santoshalom 143918 wrote:</em><blockquote>
is it possible to create another magazine menu other than default one? is it like creating any other menu?</blockquote>

The “magazine menu” component is unique for Teline II or Teline III, and is different and require far more complex scripting from the other “menus” shown in the Joomlart menu.

If you may share more why you want “two magazine menus” in one site(???) and show an illustration about the what and why, maybe some members here who are more knowledgeable about this may be of help.

nofre,

It’s OK if you disagree with my positions, we may have differing goals and target audience for the websites we create. Please share more information about extensions you cited. If you have specific websites where you used these effective, kindly share tehm. Maybe we may all learn from your experience and expertise.

Teline III is a great template. Once it is stable, and optimized, I have a number of websites where it will work with not much more extensions I may want to add, except those for admin functionalities.

However, there are specific websites where I need more features than is possible now with Joomla 1.5.x with existing Joomlart templates. If I find anything outside of Joomla altogether to create such a website, I will use such CMS, especially if they are under GPL. If you or any member here know any such CMS, please let me know.

As to the Jxtended Magazine, some of the developers involved there are part of the core team of Joomla. Many of the features of Jxtended Magazine have been contributed and most likely will be included in Joomla 1.6. This is already evident in the developer version of Joomla 1.6, as reported in a previous post of Scotty. Aside from those reported, among those that is likely to be included would be the increased granularity of the ACL.

Many of these features address the basic flaws or limitations in Joomla 1.5.x itself. Thus, the reason why Joomla 1.6 will not be compatible with Joomla 1.5.x.

It so happened that where the Jxtended team envisions and wanted to go are compatible with mine.

Cornelio

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#316853

<em>@cgc0202 143927 wrote:</em><blockquote>

The “magazine menu” component is unique for Teline II or Teline III, and is different and require far more complex scripting from the other “menus” shown in the Joomlart menu.

If you may share more why you want “two magazine menus” in one site(???) and show an illustration about the what and why, maybe some members here who are more knowledgeable about this may be of help.
Cornelio</blockquote>
Thanks Mr Cornelio for your quick reply.
I got love in with jateline2 then it release 3rd version now i like more than 2nd one.. 🙂 (http://www.sundayshalom.com/sunday/)

i am planning to put three news websites content in one joomla installation in future and i want to use multiple magazine menus for each section front page blogs and different template for each section so that each section get a unique look and different menu(magazine)
is this possible? if so how can i do with ja teline 3 template?
thanks in advance

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#316868

Hi cgc, Sorry If I appeared to be ‘flaming’ you or talking down to you… I also have a need for much of what you’re talking about.
However, each individual site (and site manager) has a different set of requirements in terms of Article flow, ability to ‘prioritize’ articles, navigtion etc…. but in the end: You get what you pay for – the major media sites have budgets running into the hunderd thousands if not millions for custom design, so don’t expect a $70 membership to JA to achieve that, even spending another $70 on one of the other Magazine/News components won’t do it either…. it doesn’t do it for me, but then I work with a somewhat smaller budget than CNN.

As for <blockquote>I told Merav (the founder of iJoomla) that she should at least combine their “iJoomla Magazine” and “iJoomla News” to have the rudiments that approach what commercial newspapers, magazines and journals use.
However, while I have the license, I opted not to use iJoomla’s softwares eventually because Merav promised me that (in two weeks) she would combine both the features of “iJoomla Magazine” and “iJoomla News”. I even offered to pay for the cost of both if she did that.</blockquote>

I guess that’s like telling Toyota that they “should at least combine” the upscale image of a Lexus with the eco-benefits of a Prius and that in return you’d be prepared to pay equivalent to the cost of one of each vehicle – not the redevelopment cost, in iJoomla’s case they’d get a grand total of $140 for their work.

I’m no iJoomla evangalist, but I do recognise (for the benefit of others in this discussion who don’t) that they have 2 products to sell – each performs a similar but very different function according to the site publisher’s requirement…
and I think Merav DID deliver – maybe not according to your specs, or within your time-frame – but you CAN actually use both iJoomla News and Magazine on the same site & page – it gets complicated backend… but (I’m guessing here) the backend of CNN ain’t no Joomla GUI either.

and sure iJomla can be a bit buggy but in perspective, not as bad as Micro$oft – however their support is a whole lot better than most.

Anyway, this link might serve as a cautionary tale (or even just a bit of fun) http://www.digitalsurvivors.com/archives/000455.php

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#316884

<em>@santoshalom 143930 wrote:</em><blockquote>Thanks Mr Cornelio for your quick reply.
I got love in with jateline2 then it release 3rd version now i like more than 2nd one.. 🙂 (http://www.sundayshalom.com/sunday/)

i am planning to put three news websites content in one joomla installation in future and i want to use multiple magazine menus for each section front page blogs and different template for each section so that each section get a unique look and different menu(magazine)
is this possible? if so how can i do with ja teline 3 template?
thanks in advance</blockquote>

santoshalom,

I am not sure if you heard of it but, it is possible to have a single Joomla installation to control multiple sites, and with an extension to have master login. I presume this should work also for a Joomla-Teline III site.

I do not know how to do it myself and it is more a Joomla discussion so you might want to read more about it in the Joomla site. There are some reading materials on this topic in Joomla.

Cornelio

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#316890

Hi Cornelio,

I have been playing around with this. I now have a subdomain for my site, only for testing. I have given some users rights to only use this part of the site and it works fine. They only can post things on this part. But it’s not completely what you mean i guess.

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#316923

Hello,
Great template.. one problem I’ve encountered:

I have a page which displays a list of images with text. This page works fine in Teline II but the images are missing in Teline III. Viewing the page source, it seems that the <img src= tag is completely removed. Is there any way to fix this?

Teline ii example:
<a href = http://www.link>Out of their depth…<br><img src=link/images/village/covers/cover_2008-07-31.jpg border=”6″ alt=Out of their depth… title=Out of their depth… hspace=”6″ vspace=”2″ width=”85″ height=”120″ align=”left” /></a><r1><p>The government have text text text ….</p></r1></td>

Teline iii example: (identical pages)
<a href = http://www.link>Out of their depth…<br></a><r1><p>The government have text text text ….</r1></td>

The img src tag is missing

Thank you.

Malachy

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