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It really would be helpful to not show image captions by default in category blog views. Please don’t mention using Images and Links 🙂
The problem with {ja thumbnail off} relates to using class=caption. If an editor puts a caption (or just sets class=caption) on any article image tag the Popup doesn’t work. Class=caption is necessary in order to get image margins in Teline IV (and Teline II) templates if JA Thumbnail plugin is set to Disable or Manual or {jathumbnail off} is used within the article. Obviously, if the Popup method is used for all article images, margins don’t matter as the images are not displayed in the text. The thumbnail of the first image generated by JA Thumbnail does automatically have margins independently of class=caption on the article image tag itself.
However, on this test article, there seems to be no image margin on the thumbnail in category blog view when no class=caption has been set on the article image tag. (If I add class=caption to the image tag margins appear correctly on this page view.)
On Global Print Monitor we normally use class=captions on all images so that if the editor wishes, they can add {jathumbnail off} at the end of the article and then the images are displayed within the text and have margins. But, of course, if they forget to add the {jathumbnail off} the Popup should still work, but it doesn’t if class=caption is present on images. Catch 22!!
This problem is, of course, exacerbated when importing articles (about 30,000) from the Joomla 1.5 Teline II site.
The strange image “case_auto_occ_bike_rendering.ashx” seems to be from Microsoft. In JA Featured News it resizes OK but is not happy in JA Popup. More info here: http://file.org/extension/ashx
On this page I have used {jathumbnail off} tag and all class=caption is set on all image tags. If you delete the {jathumbnail off} tag you’ll see that there are 10 images in the popup slideshow but you have to navigate to the third image to get the popup to work. Maybe a clue? Nothing is set in Images and Links, of course.
http://217.199.187.59/tecsa.com/joomla2/index.php/en/editorial/large-format/939-buzz-and-excitement-at-sgi
<em>@Saguaros 417286 wrote:</em><blockquote>Hi Tim,
When I try to remove class=caption in the first 2 images in this article: http://217.199.187.59/tecsa.com/joomla2/index.php/en/editorial/large-format/939-buzz-and-excitement-at-sgi
I see that the image’s margin/align is the same as when they have class=caption. Could you send me screenshot illustrating the issue here so that I can help?</blockquote>
Strange.
To illustrate the problem(s) that I see I have taken screenshots below with,
- {jathumbnail off} tag inserted in article, and
- class=caption not used on any of the images
No margin is displayed on the category blog view and there are no margins displayed until the 3rd image in the article view. Is this because JA Thumbnail is expecting to see settings in Images & Links for the first 2 images?
In order to get image margins on the category blog view and the first 2 images I have to add class=caption to them. When I do that all margins are present and correct in all views.
However, if I now remove the {jathumbnail off} tag in order to use the Popup slideshow display method in the article, the popup doesn’t work unless I also remove class=caption from the image tags on the first 2 images or I navigate to the 3rd image. Note that there may indeed be real captions on such images rather than just class=caption tags, so not optional. Catch 22! I assume that this behaviour may be because JA Popup is looking for instructions from Images & Links settings 🙁
Editors seriously dislike using Images & Links (aka flat refusal). More keystrokes, can’t see images in position etc., etc. It would be better, IMO, if all article images were treated the same as #3 onwards in the absence of image/caption/alignment settings in Images & Links.
BTW: Why does Fancybox in JA Popup no longer function? I have re-installed the plugin, but to no avail. It merely opens images in a new tab.
Hi Saguaros,
I have left the article as you found it, i.e. without {jathumbnail off} activated and with class=caption added to the first 2 image tags. Also the selected popup is not Fancybox but the last on the list in JA Popup plugin.Tim
On the article’s first 2 images I’ve removed the class=caption (see first image of html) and the margins have gone. (second image) Also gone in category blog view. (3rd image). There are no class=caption tags on the rest of the articles images, but there are correct margins. So, I conclude that after the first 2 images the template correctly adds image margins automatically.
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