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[pedrox Friend pedroxJoin date: July 2007Posts: 375Downloads:1Uploads:85 Thanks: 5 Thanked: 37 times in 1 posts]

#201073

We need to learn CSS? No thanks!

JoomlArt answer us we need to learn CSS … and we can do any kind of site with any of JoomlArt templates, etc. If this were true, why would still need new templates?

However, I agree that it is possible to do anything with just one model. And without understanding anything about CSS. But not with any of JoomlArt templates.

I know several good examples but none of JoomlArt. And SJ Tech is one of the best examples I know. With SJTech can really make any kind of website without knowing CSS. SJ Tech not offer support for Jomsocial or EasyBlog but still seems to have been built to work well with all components.

Yes, you can install any component in a JoomlArt template. But for good result you still need to take time to learn CSS.

But SJTech is proof that we can get the best result without learning CSS.

Hopefully JoomlArt think about it the next time you create a new template

SJ Tech
http://zed22.com/demo/index.php/jomsocial

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[Phill Moderator PhillJoin date: February 2014Posts: 7013Downloads:40Uploads:77 Thanks: 917 Thanked: 2206 times in 1818 posts]

#548284

I’ve split your post from the announcement thread as it is a little of topic for the thread in question.

CSS, most changes can be achieved from the back end of T3. You can change colours, styles, fonts and all sorts of things. It really is easy and there is a lot of documentation available. It is also possible to customize the menus, add modules to them and multi column layouts, all from the back end. It is possible to create new module positions and adjust existing ones, all from the back end. Of course, there will always be some things that any web designer will need to adjust. For instance, if you need to change the size of the logo position but for that we are here to help. So no, you do not need to learn css, but it can help and save time.

[pedrox Friend pedroxJoin date: July 2007Posts: 375Downloads:1Uploads:85 Thanks: 5 Thanked: 37 times in 1 posts]

#548287

<em>@phill luckhurst 444237 wrote:</em><blockquote>I’ve split your post from the announcement thread as it is a little of topic for the thread in question.

CSS, most changes can be achieved from the back end of T3. You can change colours, styles, fonts and all sorts of things. It really is easy and there is a lot of documentation available. It is also possible to customize the menus, add modules to them and multi column layouts, all from the back end. It is possible to create new module positions and adjust existing ones, all from the back end. Of course, there will always be some things that any web designer will need to adjust. For instance, if you need to change the size of the logo position but for that we are here to help. So no, you do not need to learn css, but it can help and save time.</blockquote>

Yet it is a fact that JoomlArt need to change some things so that templates can make us happier. And we need more than promises, we need real change. We need good templates that will please the majority and always bring something new. More creative Items that exploit the full potential of Joomla and K2, etc.

[Phill Moderator PhillJoin date: February 2014Posts: 7013Downloads:40Uploads:77 Thanks: 917 Thanked: 2206 times in 1818 posts]

#548289

Like what? Your thread is about not having to learn CSS and I have detailed just how much can be achieved from the back end. Simply showing other template really just shows us others layouts but not the ideas behind them. Be detailed with your ideas, detail something new and exciting so that the dev team have something to get their teeth into.

[pedrox Friend pedroxJoin date: July 2007Posts: 375Downloads:1Uploads:85 Thanks: 5 Thanked: 37 times in 1 posts]

#548296

<em>@phill luckhurst 444244 wrote:</em><blockquote>Like what? Your thread is about not having to learn CSS and I have detailed just how much can be achieved from the back end. Simply showing other template really just shows us others layouts but not the ideas behind them. Be detailed with your ideas, detail something new and exciting so that the dev team have something to get their teeth into.</blockquote>

Sorry ??? I do not think I have understood well.
Something new? I already gave several hints. Want me to do what else?

My last tip was how to improve the K2 Items
And did not get the lowest feedback JoomlArt
And yet I was accused by Tomc of attempting to impose my tips, and be pretentious

Let me be clear: when I give tips’m just trying to discuss new ways of development. And the least I can expect is that JoomlArt do something (in this case) to improve Joomla Item and K2 Item.
http://www.joomlart.com/forums/topic/joomlart-need-to-better-exploit-the-potential-of-k2/

[pedrox Friend pedroxJoin date: July 2007Posts: 375Downloads:1Uploads:85 Thanks: 5 Thanked: 37 times in 1 posts]

#548305

I think everything should follow an evolutionary logic.
Joomla and K2 items, for example, need to follow this evolutionary logic.

But almost everything lately JoomlArt has done is create similar templates with a different makeup.

The trend now is “simple layouts”?
JoomlArt can not chase fads. Instead, JoomlArt need to ask yourself what you’re doing now revelante to revolutionize the future of Joomla templates

PS: I apologize for my bad English that prevents me from being clearer

[gringo211985 Friend gringo211985Join date: May 2012Posts: 678Downloads:197Uploads:121 Thanks: 77 Thanked: 123 times in 27 posts]

#565896

Yo that link to the template is a 404 and if you remove the /demo/index.php/jomsocial it goes to a porn / escort site!!!

Also in my opinion there is no template on earth that would not require me to change some css, even if a template has built in styles I am always changing bits mainly because I don’t want my sites to all look the same. If you keep a default template and change colours only then you may as well just be copy n pasting other peoples sites.

Plus learning css doesn’t hurt, it’s very useful and is hardly rocket science. Is using “inspect element” and a custom.css really that hard?

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