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    Thumbs up more on godaddy hosting

    as you all know by now my displeasure with godaddy and 1and1, a client called me today and complained his site was not working correctly.

    godaddy had chmod every single file, every single permission setting including the 755's and the 644's to 705 across the board.

    their are files that just won't work with that permission (705)

    what the hell are they thinking, how can a hosting company just abitrarily reset file permisions like that.

    client wants me to fix it no charge

    I don't think so

    sign me
    not a fan of cheap hosting

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    I'm a fan of cheap hosting, actually found a lot of cheap hosting sites that are very good and customer friendy.

    But godaddy? Its one of the worst provider i came across. Takes a lot of time to get things running properly at godaddy when at other hosting providers you are done in like 5 minutes.

    Had a case that godaddy deleted a account from a customer by accident, they restored the account within 3 days but all the data was gone. They had it on a backup but to restore from backup would cost around 200 dollar, when they deleted it in the first place.

    Not to start about all the bad reviews about godaddy on the internet.

    Its NOdaddy for me.
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    there are some cheap ones that are good,

    so far, hostgator has been excellent and they know joomla and their CS actually support it, and their servers are set up correctly, none of that shared hosting crap!

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    mj1256,

    I would really like to work with you on this. If you message me with the domain name on the account, I would be happy to look in to this further.

    Sincerely,

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    think of it this way

    what takes me 15 minutes on a real host takes hours of finding work arounds on godaddy

    can you make joomlapack and joomlacloner work

    can you make it so that htaccess files work correctly with the proper syntax

    can you make it so that zip files can be expanded on the server

    It took me 8 hours to get the htaccess files to work, and finally, the CS agent admitted that the FAQ's were WRONG, and that all the info I was given needed to be updated. I get between $65 and $100 dollars per hour, all that time was lost,

    I've spend hours trying to get joomlapack to work, all that time and income was lost, to manually download the site and the DB, takes hours, joomlapack takes 5 minutes. As I test i tried to restore the site into a a subfolder, and guess what, I could not import the backup of the db I made. This guys site has no backup.

    He chose your company even though I said no. This has caused me time and money. Their is no price a client could pay me to use godaddy again.

    Go to any forum and you will find nothing but complaints and problems about using joomla at godaddy. The sites that do work well are simple staic html sites, as soon as you try to add any kind of more robust architecture and functionality, godday produces problems.

    I did get the site to work, artio SEO/SEF to work, the htaccess 301 redirect to work, but when you arbitrarily change file permissions, you crashed the site,.Why do admin make changes without permission. One day they moved the domin to the shared root, you can't have two websites in the same folder. Who had to fix it, me, and for no compensation. And then one day an admin modified nd moved the htacess file, WHY THE HELL DID HE DO THAT. I had to redo everything.

    I am very very experienced and know what I need to do, what I want, and how to do it.

    I have over 180 sites on 5 different hosts and godaddy is the only one with these issues ( i have one site there), and when I research and ask others about godaddy, i find that these issues are not unique to me.

    Can you fix your whole hosting setup

    And now you want to work with me on this, who pays me for this time???

    I do business consulting, godaddy can hire me as a consultant and I will prepare a proposal and plan for fixing this for a fee.

    and why the hell would you admin change the file permissions :(

    Like I said, godaddy is for beginners, experienced web professionals use real hosting

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    If i would be you i would just move the site to one of the other 4 hosting providers you have experiance with. You know how it works on those.

    Its so frustrating to find out that the most simple things wont work. In the start you think you did something wrong by yourself. As it works without problems on other sites right. So you keep going over and over your settings till you realsise its a godaddy issue.

    The worst part is you dont know when it ends. Maybe they will help you out now getting joomlapack etc working. But maybe over a couple weeks you want to install something else simple and it starts over again. And i woulndt expect any support from them next time. The only reason they want you "help" you now is because topics like this cost them costomers.

    Best decission i ever made was moving the site from godaddy. Registered a new domain on a different provider with the same name only a different subdomain so www.mysite.nl at goddaddy and www.mysite.net at the other provider. Move everything to the new domain.

    Then in godaddy's admin panel set Site Redirection to the new domain, so all old users automaticly go to your new domain. I didnt trust them to do a domain move to the new provider in the start.

    Later i moved the old domain name to the new one and in the end i removed the www.mysite.net domain.

    This should save you alot of work, time and frustration and the future.

    The client wont understand why they have pay unexpected so you can end up getting nothing for your work so i believe its in your best interest to just move.
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    so far, hostgator has been excellent and they know joomla and their CS actually support it, and their servers are set up correctly, none of that shared hosting crap!
    I'm not sure what you mean by "none of that shared hosting crap"...the bulk of HostGator's business is shared hosting.

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    If i would be you i would just move the site to one of the other 4 hosting providers
    obvious solution, client won't do it, end result, i dropped the client

    Its so frustrating to find out that the most simple things wont work. In the start you think you did something wrong by yourself. As it works without problems on other sites right. So you keep going over and over your settings till you realize its a godaddy issue.
    I never thought it was me, I knew it in advance, I could not get the client to budge

    The worst part is you dont know when it ends
    it does not end, the more complicated the site becomes, the more issues we all run into, many of the hosting issues posted here are about godaddy sites. Its all about the upsell, to get the functionality you need for a real functional robust website, you need to purchase a higher level hosting package.

    Best decision i ever made was moving the site from godaddy.
    good for you

    I didnt trust them to do a domain move to the new provider in the start.
    I don't either.

    The client wont understand why they have pay unexpected so you can end up getting nothing for your work so i believe its in your best interest to just move.
    I could not get him to move or any more money out if him as the clients simpleton friends are happy with their terrible site builder sites or staic frntpage websites. These people actually believe that the godaddy analytic/stats program is telling them they get 500,000 unique visitors a year. NO WAY. The client listened to his friends, not me, I dumped him. His simpleton friends could never build sites like we build with joomla.

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    none of that shared hosting crap
    your correct, but what I was referring to is at godaddy if you get basic hosting, all of your websites share the same folder. You know how in a normal linux hosting you put your site in public_html, and that every site has its own file structure and its own public_html, at godaddy all the websites go into the same public_html, they do not get their own. So you have to build your site in a subfolder and then redirect the domain to each folder using the htaccess file, but all the sites share the same htaccess file and the same php.in.

    Shared hosting is fine, shared folders is crap

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    Ah, I understand about the "shared" hosting.

    I got tired of 1&1, etc., so I got a dedicated server (then another) with the goal of gaining more control and performance, and it evolved into a hosting business of its own. The main objective was to get away from those crowded, shared servers, and it's been a blessing. The business is small and referral-based (generally friends', family members' and colleagues' sites), so we don't ever crowd our servers like they do.

    If you ever have the chance to go to that level, even if it's a VPS or a reseller account, I highly recommend it. You're much more in control that way.

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    i went to ther help center, its nonsense, if you were a compliant host, everything that i have done on other hosts would have worked at godaddy, but because your services are proprietary, I had to spend hours digging through your help center.

    And here is what happened, because of my knowing what I am doing, it was discovered that the info on the help center was wrong and it was changed after I pointed it out to a supervisor. It was Blatantly wrong and it was corrected because of me and my being a pain in the ass to CS.

    But, so what, the change for what i found was made to a proprietary code syntax that would only work at godaddy and no other hosting company. SO, anyone else who has worked with compliant hosting companies would still have to scrape your help center to get the proprietary code that only works at godaddy.

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